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How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« on: October 18, 2012, 02:45:41 PM »
i found 21 consititutional isosmers, what about steriosime

and what is the total amount ( constitutional and sterio) of isomers of this compound?

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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 09:46:33 PM »
21 sounds rather a lot to me can you post some of the structures you came up with?
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 01:48:06 AM »
21 sounds rather a lot to me can you post some of the structures you came up with?

Here's the eight NIST came up with:

Oxirane, (chloromethyl)- (C3H5ClO)

2-Propanone, 1-chloro- (C3H5ClO)

Propanoyl chloride (C3H5ClO)

Oxirane, (chloromethyl)- (C3H5ClO)

Oxirane, (chloromethyl)-, (R)- (C3H5ClO)

2-Chloro-2-propen-1-ol (C3H5ClO)

(S)-(+)-Epichlorohydrin (C3H5ClO)

3-chloro-2-propen-1-ol (C3H5ClO)

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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 01:51:44 AM »
I've got 21. So I apologise for my previous comment about it being too many. It's just amazing how many there are for such a "simple" compound.

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I think your Oxirane (chloromethyl) is the same as epichlorohydrin
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 05:22:59 AM »
I've got 21. So I apologise for my previous comment about it being too many. It's just amazing how many there are for such a "simple" compound.

@curiouscat:
I think your Oxirane (chloromethyl) is the same as epichlorohydrin

Right!

I'm trying now; still only at 10. 14 18  >:(

PS. Do any 1-Chloro-1-hydroxy compounds exist? Or are they always unstable. i.e. Can -OH and -Cl ever be attached to the same C atom?
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 06:29:49 AM »
These compound decompose and you get the Aldehyde/Ketone and HCl.

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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 06:52:23 AM »
I don't think the stability is asked for here. The OP asks for the number of possible isomers. If they are stable or not is a different question.
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 07:06:03 AM »
And what is the answer now. Of course I can draw these kind of molecules, but do they really exist?

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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 07:09:03 AM »
If they exist is not the question here the OP is asked for the number of isomers only. I get 21, including those "unstable ones".
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 07:12:36 AM »
If they exist is not the question here the OP is asked for the number of isomers only. I get 21, including those "unstable ones".

Then I'm at 22!  ;D

Unless I miscounted.  :P

Maybe I'll try drawing them all and posting.  :-\

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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 07:16:25 AM »
LOL, I'll have another count of mine, it's 19 now, I spotted two the same. I can post them as well.
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 07:29:21 AM »
LOL, I'll have another count of mine, it's 19 now, I spotted two the same. I can post them as well.

Darn! How did you draw them up so fast? I'm still on my Molecule #2.  :-[

Never mind; I'll only post the ones I had that you didn't. (Unless I mis counted too!  :P)

PS. What software did you use to draw?

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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 07:31:06 AM »
I did it earlier, lol
This should have been a question of the month!
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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 07:45:31 AM »
LOL, I'll have another count of mine, it's 19 now, I spotted two the same. I can post them as well.

Aren't these the same? If so you are on 17!  ;)


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Re: How many isomers of C3H5OCL are there
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 07:52:40 AM »
If they exist is not the question here the OP is asked for the number of isomers only. I get 21, including those "unstable ones".

Ok, I must have messed something up because I drew up 22 excluding steroisomers!... {I never was good at the 3D stuff  :P}

I'll post in a bit and then you guys can tear me apart.  ;D

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