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Offline KGBgringo

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Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« on: October 23, 2012, 09:36:41 AM »
Hi guys, I'm currently doing an access to science course, after 15 years not being in education I occasionally (ok maybe more than occasionally) struggle with the odd question this being one of them...

Calculate the volume of 0.0990 mol/dm-3 sodium hydroxide solution that is required to neutralise a solution containing 0.148g of ethanoic acid.

CH3COOH(aq)+NaOH(aq) :rarrow: CH3COONa(aq)+H2O(l)


Any help much appreciated, but please don't give me the answer I need to figure that out myself I just need a gentle prod in the right direction. 





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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2012, 09:42:30 AM »
OK, you're given the amounts of reactants, but in two different units.  Also, you're given another equation -- the chemical reaction, what are its units?  It has units, they're just not explicitly laid out, but they are understood to be there.
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 09:43:34 AM »
Ok, let's try the Socratic method. :)

Step 1: What's the MW of Ethanoic Acid?

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2012, 09:55:49 AM »
Wow that was quick I went to make a sandwich as wasn't expecting response so quickly. 

So the MW of Ethanoic acid would be 60.

I could then figure out the number of moles by dividing 0.148 by 60 which would be 0.00246, am I right then so now I know the amount of moles in the equilibrium equation.
 



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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 09:58:10 AM »
I could then figure out the number of moles by dividing 0.148 by 60 which would be 0.00246, am I right then so now I know the amount of moles in the equilibrium equation.

Sounds good so far. 

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 10:03:24 AM »
Right so I'm doing this to 4 sig numbers so calling it 0.0025, ooooooh ok is it now just 0.0025 * 0.148 to get the volume in dm3?

Wait a minute wouldn't I need that 0.148g in cm/dm3

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2012, 10:07:17 AM »
Right so I'm doing this to 4 sig numbers so calling it 0.0025, ooooooh ok is it now just 0.0025 * 0.148 to get the volume in dm3?

That multiplication won't make sense. You multiplied moles of Acid by gm of Acid. Why?

Also, didn't see you use the conc. of NaOH yet. That should be relevant, right?

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2012, 10:13:15 AM »
Oh yeah of course, getting confused. 

Would it be the conc * n = vol

so 0.0990 * 0.0025 = 0.0000225 dm3

or 0.0225cm3




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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2012, 11:05:41 AM »
Oh yeah of course, getting confused. 

Would it be the conc * n = vol



No. Balance units.

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2012, 11:16:32 AM »
oh right is that the times by 24 for cm3 or 24000 for dm3.  Because I got the figure using mass not volume.

Man this is what happens when I understand it in class but due to real life have not got around to doing the homework until a week later, so now it's not fresh in my mind. 

So 0.0000225 * 24,000 = 0.6dm3

Edit: I've got to go out for a bit so if you reply again and I don't I'm not ignoring you, also thank you so much for the help so far is much appreciated. 
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 11:48:19 AM by KGBgringo »

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2012, 02:44:56 PM »
moles_NaOH = moles_EtAcid

moles = conc. x Vol.

V_NaOH = moles / conc.
= 0.00246 gmol / 0.0990 gmol / dm3
= 0.02485 dm3

Can't guarrentee my math... :P

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Re: Calculate volume to neutralise a solution
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2012, 04:09:44 PM »
Thank you, I was just coming home in the car and had an epiphany of "Nooooo the 24 thing is for gases!!!".  I've still got a day to do this so will crack it properly tomorrow just couldn't get my head round it today for some reason. 

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