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pH of weak acid with low concentration
« on: November 10, 2012, 09:44:24 AM »
Is there a suitable way to calculate the pH of a weak acid solution whose concentration is very small (water dissociation makes the problem)? For example: Calculate the pH of an acetic acid solution whose c=1*10-7M (Ka=1.8*10-5). How would I do this?

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Re: pH of weak acid with low concentration
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 12:49:38 PM »
I am still new to learning chemistry so I hope I didn't misunderstand the question completely or make any mistakes. Let me know

Example: Ethanoic Acid, Ka = .000017
Concentration of Ethanoic Acid we were given = .0000001
Write the equation first: CH3COOH + H2O ---> H3O+ + CH3COO-
Then plug this into the equilibrium formula. Products / Reactants (not water) = Ka

[H3O+][CH3COO-] / .0000001 = 000017
As the products are in 1 : 1 ratio you can say [H3O+]Squared / .0000001 = 000017
Transpose the equation:

.0000001 * .000017 = [H3O+]Squared
=.0000000000017
since this is squared and we only want the [H3O+] we square root it.
Square root of .0000000000017 = .000001304

pH = -log [H3O+]
pH = -log .000001304
pH = 5.885

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Re: pH of weak acid with low concentration
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2012, 01:07:22 PM »
http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-calculation&right=pH-strong-acid-base
I know that, but I was asking for a weak acid/base solution, which I found under the strong acid/base title (http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-calculation&right=pH-weak-acid-base). There, between the steps 8.4 and 8.5 is neglected what I was asking here, so it wasn't very helpful.

Mr-E, the problem is that water dissociation takes an important role at low concentrations of acids and bases.

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Re: pH of weak acid with low concentration
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 01:25:51 PM »
I understand. Well GL

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Re: pH of weak acid with low concentration
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 07:54:48 PM »
Sorry, I was answering ion haste and missed the weak acid part.

In general your problem requires solving third degree polynomial. See general equation 6.11 here: http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-calculation&right=pH-acid-base-solution
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Re: pH of weak acid with low concentration
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2012, 04:19:52 AM »
Thanks. I was looking for that.

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