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Salt producing challenge
« on: November 25, 2012, 12:19:33 AM »
Could anyone tell me how to produce '' Potassium titanium oxalate-dihydrate'' with the chemical formula of ''C2H4KO6Ti''?? any help could me very useful.
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 08:16:04 AM »
Start by looking up the structure - the formula you posted is completely incorrect
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 10:39:32 AM »
Yeah Sounds like you're right :). This is the correction '' K2C4O9Ti.2H2O''  or '' K2TiO(C2O4)2.2H2O''
''Potassium Titanium Oxalate dihydrate''
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 07:05:21 AM »
Now you know the structure, you can have a go yourself.

Hint: Look up titanates and think about acid/base reactions
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 01:54:42 PM »
Yeah I know the structure but since I'm not a chemist, I have no idea what the reaction is and what kind of salts or acids I should mix to get that salt. Does anyone can tell me the reaction?
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 02:03:39 PM »
I'd imagine you mix potassium titanate + oxalic acid, but I don't know how it is produced industrially.

It's not expensive, probably cheaper to buy it than to make it.
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 02:17:39 PM »
Tnx for your help. I know it's not that much expensive but I'm so curious about making that by myself. I'll test that and will give back the results ASAP.
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 01:33:37 AM »
It seems that potassium titanate has different formulas :
Various kinds of manufacturing by application as K2Ti (6~8) O (13~17)
which one should I use?
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 03:07:40 AM »
K2TiO3 was what I had in mind (CAS: 12030-97-6) - example
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2012, 03:14:26 AM »
there are several PH for this salt.
could you please let me know which production parameter affect on the salt PH?
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2012, 03:19:18 AM »
What do you mean several PH? I don't get it!!!! How could a specific salt has several PH!! Are you sure about that?? And what salt exactly you mean???
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Re: Salt producing challenge
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2012, 03:26:03 AM »
in the market there are several PH for Potassium Tetraoxalate Dihydrate. but I dont know why!!!!! ???
who know about acidic salt PH? and how I will be get it?
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