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CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« on: December 05, 2012, 01:19:27 PM »
CaCl2 can crystallize as a dihydrate. Above the equilibrium mixture (t=20°C):
CaCl2---------CaCl2*2H2O  p(H2O)=0.00045 bar.
The pressure of water on t=20°C is 2338 Pa. How many percents of the moisture, present in the dessicator, can combine with CaCl2?

The bar to Pa is 45 Pa. When I divide 2338 by 2338+45 and the multiply it by 100 I get 98%, the correct answer, but I don't understand the theory behind this, why I had to do in the calculation the thing I done? Any help appreciated!

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 03:22:49 PM »
I'm not really sure what you mean by "The pressure of water on t=20°C is 2338 Pa", but it could be that vapor pressure-wise or equilibrium-wise that partial pressure of water is required, sort of like an equilibrium concentration.

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 08:21:45 AM »
It is the vapor pressure. How to solve this as an usual equilibrium problem?

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 08:44:54 AM »
Interesting situation.

[tex]
\frac{2338}{2338+45} \cdot 100=98.11\% \\
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[tex]
\frac{2338-45}{2338} \cdot 100=98.08\% \\
[/tex]

Are you sure your answer is the right one or just serendipitously close to the right one?  ;D

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 09:18:21 AM »
Hehe  ;D! The answer in the book is just 98%. I got it by the method I wrote and I thought that it is okay, but I didn't understand it. Saw now that it is wrong. I think that I understand the 2nd formula you wrote. There was a pressure of 2338 Pa, and after the equilibrium was established, it was 45 Pa, so the difference reacted.

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 09:20:48 AM »
Hehe  ;D! The answer in the book is just 98%. I got it by the method I wrote and I thought that it is okay, but I didn't understand it. Saw now that it is wrong. I think that I understand the 2nd formula you wrote. There was a pressure of 2338 Pa, and after the equilibrium was established, it was 45 Pa, so the difference reacted.

Yep! That's indeed what I had in mind. No fun giving you the answer directly.  ;)

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 09:25:22 AM »
Interesting situation. Are you sure your answer is the right one or just serendipitously close to the right one?  ;D

Not especially, just recall that for small x; x2 is even smaller, so 1+x ≈ 1/(1-x)

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Re: CaCl2*2H2O+vapor pressure
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 09:28:35 AM »
Interesting situation. Are you sure your answer is the right one or just serendipitously close to the right one?  ;D

Not especially, just recall that for small x; x2 is even smaller, so 1+x ≈ 1/(1-x)

Not mathematically interesting.

 Interesting because there was a perfectly reasonable wrong way to get the right answer.

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