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I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« on: January 06, 2013, 11:08:16 AM »
Hello,

I am finding it difficult to assign the chemical shifts for the protons in this molecule from looking at the literature results below. Firstly, I assigned the protons as shown in the diagram and i assumed that  c and d are diasterotopic, is that correct or are they identical? In the literature results the only protons i understand is 1.42 (s, 9H) which is proton a and 0.92 (d, J=8 Hz, 6H) which is proton f but i'm not sure about protons b,c,d and e.

Can someone please help me to understand the lit results.
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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2013, 11:36:51 AM »
There are 20H in the NMR, but you have only labelled 19H in your structure - you've missed one of the Hs that is showing up in the NMR. Any idea which it might be?

Look at the splitting patterns you can see. If you have a d, that H is only coupling to one other H - there is only one obvious option as to which one that might be.
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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 11:51:23 AM »

Would the other proton be the N-H proton ? and would that proton be able to couple with proton b to produce a doublet?

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There are 20H in the NMR, but you have only labelled 19H in your structure - you've missed one of the Hs that is showing up in the NMR. Any idea which it might be?

Look at the splitting patterns you can see. If you have a d, that H is only coupling to one other H - there is only one obvious option as to which one that might be.

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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2013, 03:37:11 PM »
That would be my guess. How about that quartet?
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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2013, 04:02:04 PM »

Would the quartet be due to proton b coupling with the N-H proton and protons c and d and so the multiplet would be c,d and e ??
That would be my guess. How about that quartet?

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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2013, 05:17:43 PM »
That would be my guess as well.
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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 07:37:40 PM »
ok thanks so much :)
That would be my guess as well.

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Re: I need HELP with the 1H NMR peaks for this compound
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 09:51:48 AM »
4.9 ppm is more upfield than where I have observed a peak which I tentatively assigned to the carbamate N-H hydrogen atoms of a BOC group (6.9 ppm).  What is the solvent?  Ours was d6-DMSO.  I checked Hans Reich's NMR tables, and I found a carbamate N-H at 5.16 ppm; perhaps the degree of H-bonding has a strong influence.  I am not sure why all three hydrogen atoms in question would produce the same 4 Hz coupling constant.

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