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Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« on: February 15, 2013, 05:40:05 AM »
What processes happen at magnesium and zinc plates if they are immersed in hydrochloric acid and not touching each other.

Probably both metals get oxidized:
Mg+2H+ :rarrow: Mg2++H2 :spinup:
Zn+2H+ :rarrow: Zn2++H2 :spinup:

What happens if they are connected by a wire?

Now, I think that magnesium is protecting zinc and that these processes happen:
Mg :rarrow: Mg2++2e- at magnesium plate,
2H++2e- :rarrow: H2 at zinc plate.

Is my reasoning correct?

Also I was though that salts are called, for example sodium-chloride with the line between sodium and chloride. Now, in many references I see that the small line isn't written, sodium chloride. Is this a new rule or both names are acceptable?
 

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 08:54:47 AM »
I am not sure magnesium is strong enough to protect zinc.

The - is not used , for what reason should it be.
English language seperates , other languages dont. So  Natriumchlorid you can find some where else.

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 10:15:31 AM »
Why not  :o-it has a much lower electrode potential.

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 10:59:08 AM »
What processes happen at magnesium and zinc plates if they are immersed in hydrochloric acid and not touching each other.

Probably both metals get oxidized:
Mg+2H+ :rarrow: Mg2++H2 :spinup:
Zn+2H+ :rarrow: Zn2++H2 :spinup:

What happens if they are connected by a wire?

Now, I think that magnesium is protecting zinc and that these processes happen:
Mg :rarrow: Mg2++2e- at magnesium plate,
2H++2e- :rarrow: H2 at zinc plate.

Is my reasoning correct?

Also I was though that salts are called, for example sodium-chloride with the line between sodium and chloride. Now, in many references I see that the small line isn't written, sodium chloride. Is this a new rule or both names are acceptable?

Your reasoning seems correct to me. Like an electrolytic cell.

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 12:06:34 PM »
The reasoning seems correct in that Zn would draw electrons from Mg, however wouldn't the Mg also react with the acid at the same time?
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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 12:47:28 PM »
The reasoning seems correct in that Zn would draw electrons from Mg, however wouldn't the Mg also react with the acid at the same time?

I don't think so, in a electrolytic cell the less reactive electrode doesn't get eaten away. I think that's the basic fundamentals for sacrificial protection, I'm not too sure about how much protection one piece of more reactive metal can give though.

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 10:43:07 PM »
The reduction potential of Magnesium is more negative than Zinc, making it more likely to be oxidized by the acid. Magnesium is also used as a "sacrificial anode" on the hulls of ships and such, so it may "protect" the zinc...to a certain extent.

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 01:57:38 AM »
Wouldn't the Mg react with the HCl ?
Mg + 2HCl --> MgCl2 + H2

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 03:09:28 AM »
Wouldn't the Mg react with the HCl ?
Mg + 2HCl --> MgCl2 + H2

magnesium is more reactive than zinc, its an electrolytic cell question.

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Re: Two metal plates immersed in hydrochloric acid
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 12:54:13 PM »
All in all, I concluded from your responds that mine reasoning is correct. Thanks to everyone for taking part in this.

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