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Offline Anpu

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chalcone or schiff base
« on: April 05, 2013, 02:47:36 PM »
Which one will form in following reaction?? chalcone(A) or schiff base (B)???
will i get a mixture of chalcone and schiff base as product??? what reaction condition should i maintain to get chalcone alone as product??? anyone pls help me...

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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2013, 03:03:53 PM »
You will need to protect the amine first, try and make the bis-Boc urea, then do your aldol.
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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2013, 04:03:54 PM »
I don't know whether the aldol product is a known product or not, but I would not expect Shiff base formation to be in impediment if the aldol is carried out in aqueous base, like the org lab condensation of acetone and benzaldehyde.
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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2013, 04:20:15 PM »
yes...i found in an article that chalcone would be formed in presence of NaOH and Schiff base would be formed in presence of acetic acid....let me attach the reaction below

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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 01:31:17 PM »
I think the reaction afford Schiff base under acid or neutral condition. I would try to treat the acetyl group with NaOH alcohol solution and then reacted with the aldehyde. However, the protection of amine would fix all problems.

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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 02:37:42 PM »
One thing to note is that the amino ketone would have limited stability.
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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 01:34:05 PM »
the imine is ok except acid condition

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Re: chalcone or schiff base
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 03:06:36 PM »
I would add my voice to the list of people saying that it should be a straight-up aldol condensation in aqueous/ethanolic alkali. To condense the Schiff base, you need acid.


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