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Offline RaInBowDaSh1488

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Conditions for brominations with PBr3
« on: August 05, 2013, 08:18:09 PM »
I've done a few brominations of alcohols with PBr3. I have always carried them out under nitrogen because the compounds I was brominating contained many double bonds. As a result, I was worried that any adventitious water would increase the likely hood of the double bonds reacting.

My question is, for compounds that are hydrocarbons containing only a single alcohol moiety; is it necessary to carry out this sort of reaction under an inert atmosphere? I believe that moisture in the atmosphere will would react with the PBr3, but I am not sure if it would be to an extent that would really effect the outcome of the reaction, especially if I used a small excess of PBr3.

I don't have a lot of experience with the ideal conditions for this reaction outside of reacting it with very unsaturated compounds. I was just wondering if there are certain situations in which it might be acceptable to brominate with PBr3 in the absence of an inert atmosphere.

Thanks!

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Re: Conditions for brominations with PBr3
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 01:12:06 AM »
Should be no problem to have no inert atmosphere. The PBr3 will react with water to the Phosphorous acid H3PO3 and Bromine hydrogen HBr.

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Re: Conditions for brominations with PBr3
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2013, 10:46:30 PM »
Hunter2 was sleeping when he typed that. Phosphorous acid has 4 oxygens, and hydrogen gas is also formed.

PBr3 + 4H2:rarrow:   H3PO4 + 3HBr + H2

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Re: Conditions for brominations with PBr3
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2013, 10:49:07 PM »
Oh... Phosphorous, not phosphoric!

So:

PBr3 + 3H2:rarrow:   H3PO3 + 3HBr

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Re: Conditions for brominations with PBr3
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 12:49:26 AM »
What do you mean I was sleeping. Use the right etiquette here. And better you had modified your first post, there was only 3 min. time difference between the two posts.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 01:25:36 AM by Hunter2 »

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