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Offline MangoPlant

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Why doesn't this work!?
« on: November 07, 2013, 09:14:37 PM »
Find the solubility of CaF2 in a solution that is buffered at pH = 3.

My approach:

CaF2  ::equil:: Ca2+ + 2F-    K = Ksp

2F- + 2H+  ::equil:: 2HF    K = (1/Ka HF)2

Adding the two above equations, we get:

CaF2 + 2H+  ::equil:: Ca2+ + 2HF    K = Ksp(1/Ka HF)2


Ksp *(1/Ka HF)2 = x2/[H+]2

and at pH of 3, we have [H+] = 10-3 and using the values, Ksp = 3.1 x 10-11 and Ka HF = 6.8 x 10-4 we have,

3.1 x 10-11 * (1/6.8 x 10-4)2 = x2/(10-3)2

Solving for x gives x = 2.58 x 10-5, which is wrong. What was the problem?

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Re: Why doesn't this work!?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 03:19:20 AM »
You are assuming all F- is protonated - it is not.
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Re: Why doesn't this work!?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2013, 10:11:28 AM »
Doesn't using the Ka of HF account for the fact that not all of the F- is protonated?

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Re: Why doesn't this work!?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 12:18:37 PM »
No.

[Ca2+] = [F-] + [HF]

and you approach is equivalent to assuming

[Ca2+] = [HF]
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Re: Why doesn't this work!?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 05:18:57 PM »
Thanks.

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