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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2013, 07:55:52 PM »
you have a C-C-C-C-C chain with a C and a C on the third carbon, a C is a methyl group, that is 3,3-dimethylpentane
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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 08:06:43 PM »
Okay sorry I feel stupid, how do you get the 3,3 and the Di?

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2013, 08:09:31 PM »
the numbering, count from one end of the chain, the two methyls (Di) are on the third carbon,
3,3-dimethylpentane, di meaning two!
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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2013, 08:18:40 PM »
Okay slap me if I still don't have it. So the carbon on the left is the one substituent and the one on the right is the second not counting the C in the longest chain that puts each one in the Meth group... for example had there been one C on the left and two C to the right it would have been 3-methyl 3-ethylpentane

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2013, 08:22:35 PM »
I say again you have a 5 carbon chain.
C-C-C-C-C on the middle carbon there are two substituents two methyl groups.
the longest chain is 5 C atoms i.e. a pentane, on the middle carbon number 3 are two methyl substituents, i,e, dimethyl.
so you have 3,3-dimethylpentane.
No magic, that's it.



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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2013, 08:25:54 PM »
why the two threes?
  C
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      C
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   C-C-C-C-C-C
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      C    C
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      C
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      C
     
Which makes this one 2-propyl 2ethyl 4methylHexane Right? could I say 2,2,4 propylethylmethylHexane?

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2013, 08:32:05 PM »
No again find the longest carbon chain
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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2013, 08:35:19 PM »
the longest chain would be six

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2013, 08:37:26 PM »
No the longest chain is 8.

Back to the other one, the two "3"s, this is because the two substituents are on the same carbon, carbon number 3, hence 3,3-dimethyl.
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2013, 08:44:39 PM »
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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 08:45:46 PM »
Okay so them both being on the 3rd carbon makes sense, two substituents both on carbon 3 and both methyl

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2013, 08:47:36 PM »
Thats correct.
Now what about the other one, look at the picture I posted.
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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2013, 08:47:48 PM »
see picture.
Oh Snap I get what your saying now... so i am gonna try to answer the second one again and repost...

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2013, 08:50:31 PM »
see picture.

4,6 dimethyl 4-ethylOctane??

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Re: IUPAC Naming
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2013, 08:57:10 PM »
Not quite it is 5-ethyl-3,5-dimethyloctane.

the substituents go in alphabetical order.
Then the sum of the numbers must be the lowest, that is in your name the substituents are not in alphabetical order, and the numbers add up to 14.
In my name they are in alphabetical order and the sum is 13.
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