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Two vessels combining
« on: January 27, 2014, 10:47:33 AM »
The cock between the two vessels in the figure is closed. Opening it the two gases mix to form NO2. A part of this NO2 will dimerize to N2O4. After the system has reached equilibrium and the initial temperature appears again, the differences in height of the mercury columns in the attached manometers amount to 7.1 cm instead of 10 cm in the beginning. Calculate the percentage of NO2 that has dimerized to N2O4.
Assumptions: N2O4 is totally gaseous. The vapor pressure of mercury in the closed ends of the manometers can be neglected, you may assume vacuum there. The changes in height of the mercury columns have no influence on the total volume, it can be regarded as constant.

Solving:
NO+0.5O2 :rarrow: NO2
 3       1            0
 -2     -1           +2
=1     =0          =2

NO2 ::equil:: 0.5N2O4
  2                 0
 -x                +0.5x
=2-x             =0.5x
x needs to be calculated, but I am not sure how to use the manometer data. I need some help.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 01:24:53 PM by Raderford »

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Re: Two vessels combining
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 10:53:15 AM »
Tells you about pressure changes.
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Re: Two vessels combining
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 11:06:08 AM »
Okay, but how to use the 7.1cm? When the cock is open, how will the gasses distribute?

By the way the answer should be 0.16.
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Re: Two vessels combining
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2014, 11:42:03 AM »
After the cock is opened, gases mix, so the pressure is identical in both tanks (it was also identical before, as both manometers showed the same 10 cm). Change in the height tells you by how much the pressure changed from the initial, which is related to the stoichiometry of both reactions.
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Re: Two vessels combining
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 11:50:44 AM »
How so? Didn't one manometer show 10cm higher than the other? By doing the way you proposed:
4:10=V:7.1
V=2.84l
V=1+1-x+0.5x=2-0.5x
2-0.5x=2.84 not a positive result ???.

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Re: Two vessels combining
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 12:34:23 PM »
Think about it this way:

1. You have initially 1L of O2 and 3 L of NO, both at 100 mmHg.

2. They react, and the reaction goes to completion. What is the pressure now?

3. NO2 starts to dimerize, and pressure changes from the one calculated in 2, to 71 mmHg.
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Re: Two vessels combining
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 12:58:18 PM »
Found the mistake. The initial expression I wrote for the first reaction volume change was wrong. The final volume after the first reaction would be 3l, then:
4:V=10:7.1
V=2.84l
3-0.5x=2.84
x=0.32
α=0.32/2=0.16
Thank you for your help.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 01:24:20 PM by Raderford »

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