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acetylene burning
« on: March 06, 2014, 12:52:44 PM »
why does acetylene C2H2 gives 3000 degrees flame when burnt
hopefully the answer is detailed because i'm still in my start of studying chemistry
and sorry if my English is bad  :)

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 02:38:18 PM »
When in doubt, avoid the Stille coupling.

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 03:56:29 PM »
Combined with the heat of combustion, a smaller heat capacity results in higher temperature. H2O stores much heat, CO2 less, CO even less.

As one goes to such temperatures, CO becomes predominant over CO2, the heat of formation of the products accordingly smaller, and then the heat of formation of the fuel gets more important.

In the early days of rocketry, people tried things like N≡C-C≡C-C≡N, but they soon realized it had clear drawbacks  ;D and didn't bring performance neither, because light product molecules are equally important there.

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 06:34:43 AM »
i know that it has a high heat of combustion value :)
the question is why ?
also i didn't understand why didn't people use Dicyanoacetylene N≡C-C≡C-C≡N , can u please explain it in simple way .

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 08:36:11 AM »
Are you asking why it has the specific heat of combustion it does? 
When in doubt, avoid the Stille coupling.

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 08:38:13 AM »
Or in other words, are you asking why it burns at X ºC as opposed to some other temp?
When in doubt, avoid the Stille coupling.

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 10:15:25 AM »
Are you asking why it has the specific heat of combustion it does? 

yes this is my question , and this can answer the second question ^_^

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 02:27:28 PM »
i know that it has a high heat of combustion value :)
the question is why ?
Heat of formation of acetylene, due to the triple bond.
AND The small heat capacity of the flame products makes it hotter.
also i didn't understand why didn't people use Dicyanoacetylene N≡C-C≡C-C≡N , can u please explain it in simple way .
Boom.

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 02:38:29 PM »
boom  ;D this rally simple

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 01:16:43 PM »
still no detailed answers? :(

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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 05:56:49 PM »
Here goes:
Triple bond has more energy as a double which has more energy as a single.  When we crack this hydrocarbon, the δH is HUGE.  Thats really all there is to it.  Imagine it this way.  Carbohydrates have a carbon-hydrogen bond which is broken, turned to ATP, and utilized for energy.  Same thing here, except the carbon-hydrogen bond is much more energetic, and when the triple bond is broken, MUCH heat is attained.  An obvious exothermic reaction once an ignition source has been added :).
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Re: acetylene burning
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 05:58:04 PM »
Enthalpy-
My thoughts EXACTLY lol!!!!!!!
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