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Offline Jose M.

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Only true organic acids/bases ?
« on: March 16, 2006, 04:12:22 PM »
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Organic acids/bases are much weaker than their inorganic counterparts. Because of this fact, organic acid/base reactions dont usually go to completion and are in equilibrium and represented by Kc. Because of this weakness, Ka/Kb are used. I have the impression that most so-called organic acids/bases are really amphoterics (amphiprotics), that the only true organic acids are carboxilic acids and that the only true organic bases are amines. Am I correct ? Because of their similarity to amines, I suppose that amides are the next strongest bases, second to amines. Am I correct ? Amides are like amines, but with the addition of a carbonyl group.

Amino acids of both L and D configurations are amphiprotics. Does this mean that carboxilic acids are strictly acids, and amines are strictly bases ? The amino acids that constitute peptides (proteins) are of the L type. In peptides the amino acids are united by amide bonds. I know that amines and amides are related, but are amides and carboxilic acids related ?

Please tell me. Thanx.

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Re:Only true organic acids/bases ?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2006, 08:57:48 PM »
Hexane could be considered an acid depending on pH. I think saying something is a "true" "fill in the blank" is not a good approach. Chemistry is the science of grays and exceptions.
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Re:Only true organic acids/bases ?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2006, 02:47:19 AM »
Amine is usually treated as base, but in some cases can be also an acid.

RNH2 + Na = RNHNa + 1/2H2
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Re:Only true organic acids/bases ?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2006, 03:20:53 AM »
Carboxylic acids can also be bases; they can be protonated in the presence of very strong acids such as trifluoromethanesulfonic acid.

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