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Reaction Quotient
« on: March 21, 2006, 11:32:26 AM »
Hi, i need help in solving this problem:
 
The equilibrium constant Kc for the dissociation of iodine in the gas phase,
I2(g) « 2 I(g)  
 
is 1.70E+2 at 1000 K. Suppose that 5.00 mol of I2 gas is initially present in a 2.60-L flask at 1000 K. A student measures the equilibrium concentration of the iodine atoms (not the molecules) in the flask and obtains a value of 4.61E-1. On hearing this result, the professor calculates the reaction quotient, scoffs at the purported measurement, and sends the student back to the lab. What is the reaction quotient for this mixture?

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 11:34:31 AM »
I've tried multiple variations, but I can't seem to get the right answer.  I can't seem to find the initial [] of 2I.

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2006, 11:55:08 AM »
What do you mean by 'initial'? Initial is probably 0.

Write down equation for reaction quotient.
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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2006, 12:06:20 PM »
its not 0, Q=2/(I2)

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2006, 12:34:07 PM »
its not 0

Define initial. If by initial you mean 'concentration before reaction started' - it is 0. If you mean something else - it is not initial.

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Q=2/(I2)

OK. So you need two concentrations (or partial pressures) - I2 and I. Now write down mass balance.
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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2006, 04:49:29 PM »
I don't know what u mean by that.

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2006, 05:09:51 PM »
Take a piece of paper and do a table:


Reaction:   I2 -> 2 I

Before eq.: 5        0

At eq.:


Figure out what the values should be at eq. and put them into equilibrium equation. Solve the equation.

If you get stuck then go ahead and ask again.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2006, 05:11:02 PM by Pelle »

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2006, 05:13:42 PM »
I'm not trying to find the equilibrium concentrations, and I already have the equilibrium concentration for I.  I need the concentration of it initially.

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2006, 05:16:50 PM »
I don't know what u mean by that.

Have you heard about mass conservation law? Total mass of iodine is not changing - so for every I2 dissociated two I appears. Try to express it using a formula. ICE table proposed by Pelle is based on the same law, just applied in slightly different form.
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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2006, 05:24:01 PM »
   I2<------------->2I
I  1.923 M             ?
C   -x                +2x
E  1.923-x       2x=4.61x10-1

x=2.3x10-1

so

   I2<------------->2I
I  1.923 M             ?
C   -2.3x10-1      4.61x10-1
E  1.69 M             4.61x10-1

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2006, 05:26:20 PM »
I need the concentration of it initially.

I think the question is badly worded. It is not obvious for me whether there is 5.0 mole of iodine plus free I, or whether the experiment started with 5.0 moles of I2. Is that your problem?

My first understanding was that there is total of 1269 g of iodine in both diatomic and dissociated form (mass of 5.0 moles of I2) - in other words experiment started with 5.0 moles of I2 and initial amount of I was zero. That's how these questions are usually constructed.
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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2006, 05:30:18 PM »
It is badly worded, but since i'm trying to find Q, it is the initial amount of I and I2.  I think the 5 moles is just for I2.  I am quite confussed on this problem

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2006, 05:34:30 PM »
This is what the website that i input the answers into said:  Q = ^2 / [I2] .. substitute the values, use the final I_2 concentration Remember that there is a mistake in the measurement!

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2006, 05:41:52 PM »
Someone PLEASE *delete me*!!!

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Re:Reaction Quotient
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2006, 06:03:26 PM »
Do as I told you - assume initial concentration of I is 0.
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