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Dusty23

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contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« on: March 21, 2006, 06:58:10 AM »
Hi,

I need some help please... It's been a while since i've done chemistry.

could anyone help me figure out the below example:

- gas concentration (mg/m3) in vessel after pressure change:

e.g.

Temp1= 25 degrees celcius
Temp2= 25 degrees celcius

Volume1= 5L
Volume2= 5L

Pressure1= 900mmHG
Pressure2= 760mmHG

Contaminant1= 30mg/m3
Cantaminant2= ??? mg/m3

any info/help would be appreciated.

cheers,

Dusty

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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 07:23:43 AM »
Think about the general gas law. pV=nRT

The volume doesn't change, the temperatur doesn't change. R is constant. You know the pressure changes. If p goes down, what will happen to n ?

Please tell us how you solved the problem when you're done. Good luck!
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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2006, 07:31:07 AM »
p1V1=p2V2

Volume changes, mass of contaminant is constant.
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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2006, 09:15:49 AM »
though the general gas law,pv=nRT    
we know  n=pv/RT, n can be worked out
p/n=RT/v     see, the right side is constant
n is proportial to the mass of gas
then again Cantaminant=m/v
Cantaminant1/Cantaminant2=m1/m2=n1/n2

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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2006, 09:17:47 AM »
and n1/n2=p1/p2

Pelle

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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2006, 12:42:46 PM »
Borek: I was thinking contaminant escaped with over-pressure (i.e. rest of the gases), you don't think so?
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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 05:10:14 AM »
how could any gas escape? the vessel is supposed to a closed system.
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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2006, 06:22:20 AM »
PV=nRT
P=(n/v)R and C=n/V
P=CRT  and  RT is a constant
P is proportional to C
P1/P2=C1/C2

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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 03:45:22 AM »
how could any gas escape? the vessel is supposed to a closed system.

I was thinking a vessel with valve where you released pressure by letting gas out. But I guess that would complicate things a bit.

If it was entirely closed I don't see how pressure can decrease, but not volume or temperature.
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Re:contaminant concentration with changing pressure
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2006, 07:03:52 AM »
there are other ways to release pressure too, like changing the altitude of the vessel.

i think this is a theoretical question, hence we do not need to factor in too many things.
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