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Offline AlphaScent

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Formate Ester NMR
« on: August 01, 2014, 02:06:42 PM »
Taking Citronellal and treating with mCPBA at 0 degrees gives the epoxide.

But in the NMR there is a small shift at 175 ppm on the C13.  I could not do a proton to look for a singlet.

I assume a small amount can go through Bayer-Villager.

Is 175 ppm too high of a shift for a formate ester??  Do not have much experience with them.

http://www.chem.wisc.edu/areas/reich/handouts/nmr-c13/cdata.htm

This source it would seem so.
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Re: Formate Ester NMR
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 04:26:47 PM »
Ethyl formate has a shift of about 161 ppm for the carbonyl carbon, which is about the same as methyl formate.  Your shift is within a few ppm of protonated methyl formate, but that seems unlikely.

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Re: Formate Ester NMR
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 10:55:52 PM »
Alpha,

What scale did you do the reaction on? Was 13C crude or clean? Citronellal should be cheap, yes?

FYI, Hans Reich is rarely wrong about NMR.
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Re: Formate Ester NMR
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 10:16:51 AM »
Yes, very cheap.

Have a ton of it.  Only doing it on like 10 grams now for trial reactions.

I have decided it is not the formate from Bayer-Villager.  There is no C13 shift at like 60-70 for the C-O.

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