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Atomic mass calculation
« on: September 10, 2014, 06:03:27 PM »
An element X has a dibromide with the empirical formula XBr2 and a dichloride with the empirical formula XCl2. The dibromide is completely converted to the dichloride when it is heated in a stream of chlorine.

XBr2 + Cl2  :rarrow: XCl2 + Br2

When 1.500g XBr2 is treated, 0.890g XCl2 is formed.

a) Find relative atomic mass (molar mass) of X
b) identify element X

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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 09:10:05 PM »
Let's work together to begin to solve this one, as required by the forum rules:  http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=65859.0  You get two different masses for two different compounds with one element in common.  What is the contribution to the mass caused by chlorine and bromine?
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 04:42:41 PM »
Both are 2/3 of the mass of each compound?

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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 02:45:12 AM »
Both are 2/3 of the mass of each compound?

No. Two out of three atoms doesn't mean 2/3 mass. You need to take masses of these atoms (or molar masses of elements) into account.
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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 09:48:39 PM »
So for the first one Br is 160/X+160 and the second Cl is 70/X+70?

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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2014, 03:38:39 AM »
Assuming you really mean 160/(160+X) and 70/(70+X) - yes.
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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
I do, yea. So what do I do now though?

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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 03:01:47 AM »
Amount of X has not changed during the reaction - what does it tell you about number of moles of XCl2 and XBr2?

What does it further tell you about ratio of masses of samples of XCl2 and XBr2? How are they related to the molar masses?
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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2014, 02:09:15 PM »
1 mole of each?
And I'm not sure.

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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2014, 02:23:35 PM »
No, not 1 mole of each - the same number of moles of each.
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Re: Atomic mass calculation
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014, 04:38:24 PM »
What do I do with this information?

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