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Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« on: December 16, 2014, 01:43:23 PM »
Is ammonium acetate solution a buffer? I think it is even if there are species which aren't conjugated.

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 05:01:51 AM »
What has conjugation got to do with it?

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 05:36:26 AM »
I think he refers to the lack of an acid and a conjugate base pair.

No, it is not a buffer, even it has some properties of one. Can you list what are typical buffer properties, and predict, which of them ammonium acetate solution has?
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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2014, 12:11:25 PM »
Concentration ratio of the acid and base shouldn't be bigger than 10:1, the acid and base should be weak. I can't think of more.

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2014, 01:24:59 PM »
How does the buffer behave?
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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2014, 03:50:32 AM »
The acid reacts with OH- from added base, and the base reacts with H+ from the added acid.

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2014, 04:57:30 AM »
No, I mean - how does the pH change when adding base/acid, how does the pH change on dilution? These are the reasons we use buffers, so its the most important and the most basic characteristics, isn't it?
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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2014, 07:30:06 AM »
It changes a little.

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2014, 12:10:58 PM »
Can I get the answer to my question now?

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 12:13:28 PM »
I am curious
have you done any titration curves we could see

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2014, 12:20:42 PM »
No, but I am curious how it would look like.

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2014, 03:06:45 PM »
http://www.tutorvista.com/content/chemistry/chemistry-iii/ionic-equilibrium/titrations-acid-base.php

What does the bottom titration curve suggest about its ability to resist changes in pH?

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2014, 03:52:06 PM »
Can I get the answer to my question now?

Can you start thinking on your own please? As you have stated buffer pH changes only a little bit in response to acid/base added. What happens to the pH of the ammonium acetate solution?
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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2014, 03:33:48 AM »
It changes a little. So it should be  buffer!

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Re: Is ammonium acetate a buffer?
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2014, 06:42:27 AM »
It changes a little.

How much is "a little"? Show numbers. Say, you have 100 mL of 0.1 M acetate buffer at pH 4.75 and you add 1 mL of 1 M HCl solution. Then, you have 100 mL of 0.1 M ammonium acetate at pH 7.00 and you add 1 mL of 1 M HCl solution. By how much does pH change in each case?
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