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Offline mmman

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Where's the alcohol peak on 5-iodovanillin?
« on: February 12, 2015, 03:20:14 PM »
So I'm pretty sure I got 5-iodovanillin. The melting point in the literature is 183-185 C and I got 182.7-183.5 C. But my NMR spectrum isn't showing the alcohol peak. It barely shows up on the SDBS spectrum also (http://sdbs.db.aist.go.jp/sdbs/cgi-bin/direct_frame_top.cgi). Does anybody know why this is?

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Re: Where's the alcohol peak on 5-iodovanillin?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 04:33:16 PM »
its because the OH protons are acidic and then can be substitued by deuterium from your solvent thus then being invisible

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Re: Where's the alcohol peak on 5-iodovanillin?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2015, 05:09:38 PM »
So the more acidic a proton is the less likely it will show up in your NMR spectrum?

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Re: Where's the alcohol peak on 5-iodovanillin?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2015, 05:20:44 PM »
Something like that. I looked into the NMR database and it seems that your OH proton is hidden in that crazy-supper-almost invisible blob at about 10,1 ppm.
BTW any idea what causes those multiple peaks under 4ppm?

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Re: Where's the alcohol peak on 5-iodovanillin?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2015, 06:22:43 PM »
When a peak is broad and low, the reason may be chemical exchange.  I sometimes see -OH peaks when the NMR solvent is CDCl3, but not always.

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Re: Where's the alcohol peak on 5-iodovanillin?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2015, 06:38:18 PM »
Something like that. I looked into the NMR database and it seems that your OH proton is hidden in that crazy-supper-almost invisible blob at about 10,1 ppm.
BTW any idea what causes those multiple peaks under 4ppm?
Yea here's 10.1 ppm zoomed in and integrated. btw I used d-acetone so it makes since that the acetone would steal that hydrogen. I assumed the peaks under 4 ppm were left over vanillin, ethanol, ethyl acetate or water.

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