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Equilibrium for different states
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:49:26 AM »
Hello,

How would you find the equilibrium constant of a reaction that contains both gases and aqueous solutions? Or are these reactions impossible? Do you use Kp or Kc or another equation?

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Re: Equilibrium for different states
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2015, 09:05:56 AM »
Actually you can mix pressures and concentrations, for example

CaCO3(s) + CO2(g) + H2O(l) ::equil:: Ca2+(aq) + 2HCO3-(aq)

has equilibrium constant of

[tex]K = \frac{[Ca^{2+}][HCO_3^-]^2}{P_{CO_2}[H_2O]}[/tex]

(I should add some disclaimers here, but let's not worry about minute details for a moment).
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Re: Equilibrium for different states
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 10:35:16 PM »
Hello Borek,

Why did you add H2O in the equilibrium equation?

Also what are disclaimers?

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Re: Equilibrium for different states
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 03:06:54 AM »
Why did you add H2O in the equilibrium equation?

Because it is present in the reaction equation. Typically - in water solutions - concentration of water is constant and doesn't change during the reaction, so we can ignore it (it is equivalent of assuming it is just a part of the equilibrium constant). But just because we typically ignore it doesn't mean it is not there.

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Also what are disclaimers?

Way above your head. Don't worry about them for now, just be prepared it is not yet a full picture. What you already know should be enough for solving many problems.

Actually I doubt anyone has a full picture.
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Re: Equilibrium for different states
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 09:45:40 PM »
Ok, thank you very much Borek

Do you always exclude solids and liquids from the equilibrium constant in a heterogenous reaction fpr both Kp and Kc?
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Re: Equilibrium for different states
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2015, 02:49:36 AM »
Do you always exclude solids and liquids from the equilibrium constant in a heterogenous reaction fpr both Kp and Kc?

Yes. Technically they are there, we just assume their concentration/activity equals 1.
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