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Molar concentration
« on: May 22, 2015, 12:44:09 PM »
How many litres of (NH3) [NH][/3] (the volume is measured in standart conditions) must be dissolved in 200 g of a 10% solution NH4OH to obtain 15% solution of the ammonium hydroxide?

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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 01:01:55 PM »
answer must be 6.9 litres If you want to check

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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 02:49:16 PM »
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Can you begin to talk about something you recently learned that is pertinent this question? Can you start with the reaction of the reagent you're using, with water?
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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 03:06:31 PM »
I found one formula:
M1 * x1+ m2 * x2=x3(m1+m2)
m - mass of substance
x - concentration in percent
x3 - final percentage

So in this question m1 is unknown, as NH3 consists of only NH3 x1=100%, m2=200g x2=10%,
x3=15%. from this I GOT answer 11,7 g which means 0,69 moles of NH3 as 1 mole equals to 22,4
litres I assumed that answer will be {15.456} and it is incorrect.
 I have solved many exercises in this way and they were correct.

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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2015, 03:29:25 AM »
If you can find mistake (or if you think that my way of solving is totally wrong) please let me know what should I change!!!

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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2015, 06:36:35 AM »
Around 15.5 L of ammonia looks OK to me.
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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2015, 06:55:13 PM »
I agree with 6.9 L; I think you are ignoring the difference between ammonia and ammonium hydroxide. To get a solution 15% in NH4OH, you add x g NH3 and get (nominally) x*35/17 g NH4OH in solution, so that
20 + x*35/17 = 0.15*(200 + x)

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Re: Molar concentration
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2015, 03:11:00 AM »
Good point.
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