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redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« on: April 26, 2006, 01:22:05 PM »
Balancing Redox Reactions.  Balance the following redox reactions by the half-reaction method.  This topic is discussed on pages 803 - 807 [840 - 845] in the textbook.

a.  As2O3(s) + NO3?(aq) ? H3AsO4(aq) + N2O3(aq)      (in acidic solution)

b.  H2O2(aq) + Cl2O7(aq) ? ClO2?(aq) + O2(g)      (in basic solution)

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2006, 01:24:44 PM »
Please show us your attempts.

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2006, 01:42:24 PM »
i can't seem to figure out the charges for AsO3 which i put as 0  H3Aso4 I put -3 

just having trouble with the charges for N2O3(aq)

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2006, 01:44:36 PM »
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just having trouble with the charges for N2O3(aq)
I think that you mean the oxidation number.
Oxygen has the Ox-num -2, If you know this it is pretty easy to calculate the oxidation number of nitrogen.

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 01:53:19 PM »
my problem is trying to find the correct oxidation states
this has always been my problem

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 01:57:06 PM »
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I think that you mean the oxidation number.
Oxygen has the Ox-num -2, If you know this it is pretty easy to calculate the oxidation number of nitrogen.

...and there are many other more detailed infos in Borek's link...

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2006, 02:18:03 PM »
Wow thanks guys borek helped me out alot great site or link given.

saved me so much time

anyways is H3AsO4 oxidation number 5 since their are 4 O which is -8 and 3 H at +3 which gives the cetral atom a charge of 5

hope i have the hang of it and off to a good start thanks

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 02:24:22 PM »
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anyways is H3AsO4 oxidation number 5 since their are 4 O which is -8 and 3 H at +3 which gives the cetral atom a charge of 5
Yeah! Correct! Oxidation number of Arsenic is +5! Now just write the second half-reaction and that's it! :)

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 02:27:04 PM »
for N2O3(aq)  is the ox idation state this

O has 3 attoms which is 3*-2 which is has the central atom of 6

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 02:36:18 PM »
for N2O3(aq)  is the ox idation state this

O has 3 attoms which is 3*-2 which is has the central atom of 6

How many nitrogen atoms in N2O3?
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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2006, 02:48:34 PM »
their are 2 nitrogen atoms this is where i got confused the equation does not work out cannot assign an oxidation and reduction equation

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2006, 02:50:08 PM »
do u divide by 2

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2006, 02:54:55 PM »
Wow this is what i got so far but its not much

AsO3-->H3AsO4+5e-  oxidation half\

NO3-  --> N2O3 + 3H2O(l)

I need to still balance out the hydrogents is the oxidaiton half don't know where to go from here i have a long way to go

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Re: redox equations having trouble figuring this out
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2006, 03:03:58 PM »
AsO3-->H3AsO4+5e-  oxidation half\

Should be As2O3.

Assign ON for all four substances involved. And write them here.
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