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recklesskelly

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10 test tube mystery
« on: May 02, 2006, 06:41:03 PM »
I've got a typical 10 test tube mystery in my chemistry lab. We have 10 unknowns and are only allowed to use the solutions, water, a dropper, and a watch glass to put the chemicals on for reactions. No pH testing or extra chemicals allowed. My chemicals are:
H2SO4, HCL, NH3, NaOH, Pb(NO3)2, SnCl4 in HCL, Cr(NO3)3, BiCl3 in HCl, Mg(NO3)2, and Fe(NO3)3.
I've got an idea on a few of these but desperately need any help you can give me. Thanks!

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Re: 10 test tube mystery
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006, 07:37:12 PM »
So which ones were giving you trouble?

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Re: 10 test tube mystery
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2006, 07:42:35 PM »
Mainly the SnCl4 and the BiCl3 solutions.

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Re: 10 test tube mystery
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2006, 08:46:02 PM »
Normally, the presence of bismuth is tested with stannous chloride (SnCl2), which reduces the bismuth ions to bismuth metal (appearing as a black powder).  I'm not sure if that's an option in your case, but you can tell it apart from SnCl4 by using NaOH.  You'll get a Bi(OH)3 precipitate which does NOT dissolve in excess NaOH.  SnCl4, on the other hand, forms Sn(OH)4 under mildly basic conditions but adding excess NaOH dissolves this Sn(OH)4 to form the soluble Sn(OH)62-.

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Re: 10 test tube mystery
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006, 08:58:49 PM »
Does the Mg(NO3)3 react with either the SnCl4 or the BiCl3?

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Re: 10 test tube mystery
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2006, 09:08:32 PM »
No, but it also forms a precipitate in NaOH.  But it's noticably more gel-like than Bi(OH)3 or Sn(OH)4.

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Re: 10 test tube mystery
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2006, 02:53:08 PM »
My favourite test for Bi: Add KI solution ?black ppt. soluble in excess KI as potassiumtetratiodobismutate(III)

Bi3+ + 3I- ? BI3 (Black ppt.)
BI3 + I- ? [BiI4]- (Deep-red complex)

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