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How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« on: February 18, 2016, 05:52:04 AM »
Hi,
I tried to prepare Mn(NO3)2 in the lab using Mn powder and dil HNO3, filter and dry. I got brown powder and I tested the nitrate ion in the product solution using NaOH and Al-foil but I got Red brownish fumes and it should be ammonia fumes.
Does any know correct method to prepare Mn(NO3)2?
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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 06:05:33 AM »
Hi,
I tried to prepare Mn(NO3)2 in the lab using Mn powder and dil HNO3, filter and dry. I got brown powder and I tested the nitrate ion in the product solution using NaOH and Al-foil but I got Red brownish fumes and it should be ammonia fumes.
Does any know correct method to prepare Mn(NO3)2?
Thanks

Uhlmann's suggests MnCO3 + HNO3 - see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manganese(II)_nitrate&oldid=703933419 which may also explain your fumes.

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 06:20:04 AM »
Mn+HNO3=Mn(NO3)2+H2 (gas)
MnCO3+HNO3=Mn(NO3)2+H2O+CO2(colorless gas)

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 06:42:09 AM »
Nitric acid is a strong oxidizer, it will do more than you need when given metal to react with. MnCO3 and (reasonably) diluted acid sounds like a better option (even if Mn2+ can probably reduce NO3-).
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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 06:45:57 AM »
Most metalls depending onn the concentration of the HNO3 will be dissolved under NOx development.

Me + 4 HNO3 => Me(NO3)2 + 2 NO2 + 2 H2O

So the recomandation to use Carbonate or maybe also the Hydroxide will be more safe.

Other option would be to use AgNO3 and MnCl2

It will give a precipitation of AgCl and Mn(NO3)2 will be left.

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 06:52:53 AM »
well, I prepared MnCO3 from MnCl2 and Na2CO3(reaction for 24h) after that I mix MnCO3 with Dil HNO3 (10%)(reaction for 20min) then filter, and evaporate the filtrate but after evaporation I didn't get any product(flask was empty).

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2016, 06:56:52 AM »
what is the reaction time for AgNO3 and MnCl2?

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 06:57:41 AM »
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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 07:04:26 AM »
well, I prepared MnCO3 from MnCl2 and Na2CO3(reaction for 24h) after that I mix MnCO3 with Dil HNO3 (10%)(reaction for 20min) then filter, and evaporate the filtrate but after evaporation I didn't get any product(flask was empty).

My question is why you have to filter after add nitric to the manganese carbonate. I think your manganese was oxidized to MnO2 . After filtering you have only water and nitric in the flask.

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 07:16:37 AM »
I filtered to getrid of unreacted MnCO3, I found dark brown residue in filter paper can't be removed

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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 07:26:08 AM »
I mix MnCO3 with Dil HNO3 (10%)(reaction for 20min) then filter

If I have not mistaken in my calculations, 10% HNO3 is about 2.4M, which maybe still too concentrated to prevent unwanted oxidation. I learnt from school that if only acid-base reactions are desired, 'very dilute'(<0.1M) HNO3 is used.

I found dark brown residue in filter paper can't be removed

Likely to be MnO2
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Re: How to prepare manganese nitrate Mn(NO3)2?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2016, 07:43:23 AM »
Other cheaper option would be to start wie MnSO4 and Ba(NO3)2 you get BaSO4 as precipitate and Mn(NO3)2 will be in the solution. Cheaper as to use AgNO3.

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