April 28, 2024, 02:36:09 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Iodide ions with a oxidation value of 2/3?  (Read 2458 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Generic Username

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13
  • Mole Snacks: +1/-0
Iodide ions with a oxidation value of 2/3?
« on: February 21, 2016, 04:52:24 AM »
Given the following reaction, I'm struggling to see how it's possible.

ClO-(aq) + 3I-(aq) + 2H+  :rarrow: Cl-(aq) + I3-(aq) + H2O(l)

(mod edit to put text into message)
« Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 05:01:23 AM by sjb »

Offline sjb

  • Global Moderator
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3652
  • Mole Snacks: +222/-42
  • Gender: Male
Re: Iodide ions with a oxidation value of -1/3?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 05:08:08 AM »
Consider https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Triiodide&oldid=704463427 or similar. The oxidation state of -1/3 for the iodine atoms in your product is an average, just as e.g. in propane the oxidation state of carbon is probably formally +8/3.

Oxidation numbers are useful in some instances (like here) but less so in others.

Offline Generic Username

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13
  • Mole Snacks: +1/-0
Re: Iodide ions with a oxidation value of -1/3?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 05:24:17 AM »
Consider https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Triiodide&oldid=704463427 or similar. The oxidation state of -1/3 for the iodine atoms in your product is an average, just as e.g. in propane the oxidation state of carbon is probably formally +8/3.

Oxidation numbers are useful in some instances (like here) but less so in others.

Hi sjb,
Then if I understand you correctly, the oxidation value of the reactant I is -3/3 which during the reaction means: (-3/3) - (-1/3) = -2/3 or an oxidation value of 2/3. The book I'm following just throws new stuff out there without any explanation, making it hard to get your head around new ideas. Thank you.

Offline AWK

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7979
  • Mole Snacks: +555/-93
  • Gender: Male
Re: Iodide ions with a oxidation value of 2/3?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2016, 06:09:52 AM »
2/3 is a number of electrons moved for 1 iodine atom. but I3- you have 3 atoms then number of moved electrons in reaction is 3·(2/3)=2.

Mean oxidation number for I in I3- is 1/3
AWK

Offline Generic Username

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13
  • Mole Snacks: +1/-0
Re: Iodide ions with a oxidation value of 2/3?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 07:44:28 AM »
2/3 is a number of electrons moved for 1 iodine atom. but I3- you have 3 atoms then number of moved electrons in reaction is 3·(2/3)=2.

Mean oxidation number for I in I3- is 1/3
I see. Hence them multiplying by 3 later on in the working in order to match the result for Cl, which is 2. Thank you.

Sponsored Links