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pH question
« on: April 26, 2016, 08:34:43 AM »
The pH of 5.6X10^-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (according to my calculation)
Now, as a base, I would assume that the pH has to be above 7. As far my understanding, the pH shouldn't fall lower than 7 even in a diluted solution.

Maybe my calculation is wrong, or I am missing something here.

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Re: pH question
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 08:46:50 AM »
The pH of 5.6X10-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (according to my calculation)
Now, as a base, I would assume that the pH has to be above 7. As far my understanding, the pH shouldn't fall lower than 7 even in a diluted solution.

Maybe my calculation is wrong, or I am missing something here.

How do you know that the pH has to be above 7?

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Re: pH question
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 08:49:52 AM »
water is neutral. the pH of the DI water should be around 7, so, how about a neutral water with a little base?

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Re: pH question
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 09:04:37 AM »
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Re: pH question
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 11:28:06 AM »
The pH of 5.6X10^-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (according to my calculation)
Now, as a base, I would assume that the pH has to be above 7. As far my understanding, the pH shouldn't fall lower than 7 even in a diluted solution.

Maybe my calculation is wrong, or I am missing something here.
pH of pure water in standard temperature is equal to 7. Addition of any amount of any base increase pH over 7.
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Re: pH question
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 11:46:54 AM »
Thanks everybody for the help.

AWK:
That's write. But, according to my calculation, the pH of 5.6X10^-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (lower than 7) KOH is a strong base. How can that be?

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Re: pH question
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 11:53:08 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-ionization_of_water

That's write. But, according to my calculation, the pH of 5.6X10^-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (lower than 7) KOH is a strong base. How can that be?

Have you read the link? You missed out the OH- produced from self-ionisation of water.
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Re: pH question
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 01:40:24 PM »
Thanks everybody for the help.

AWK:
That's write. But, according to my calculation, the pH of 5.6X10^-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (lower than 7) KOH is a strong base. How can that be?
Wrong approximation
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Re: pH question
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 11:34:09 PM »
Thanks everybody for the help.

AWK:
That's write. But, according to my calculation, the pH of 5.6X10^-7 g of KOH diluted in 1L of water is 6 (lower than 7) KOH is a strong base. How can that be?
Wrong approximation
What is the wrong here? any clue please?

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Re: pH question
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 01:46:26 AM »
In this case you should take into account two equilibria as Burner suggested.
The concentration of OH- from KOH diminishes concentration OH- from water, but for calculations both concnetration should be taken into account.
The same reasoning concerns a very diluted acids eg 10-8 M HCl for which pH is below 7.
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