[P-man]

I am learning, on my own, with the help of textbooks kindly given to me at Christmas by my grandfather and my own experimenting, some more advanced chemistry than what I studied in Grade Seven. Partly as preparation for High School, and partly for my own knowledge. However, I ran across some reactions that need clarifying.

Through frequent observation, I noticed that HCl likes to form chlorides. So is this equation correct?

CuSO₄ + 2HCl --> CuCl₂ + H₂SO₄

Although I found it unlikely that it would form sulphuric acid, I could not find another spot to put the SO4, which I know cannot exist as a free compound.

The second puzzlement in my going-ons was that sulphuric acid usually reacts with metal carbonates to form sulphates, am I not correct? For example, they usually ended up something like this, right:

H₂SO₄ + CuCO₃ --> CuSO₄ + CO₂ + H₂O

Originally I found some weird ionic compound but then I realized that this broken down form would work better. However, until I do it, I have no way to prove that metal carbonates react in this way with sulphuric acid.

[syko sykes]

regarding the first equation, H₂SO₄ is a strong acid so in solution it dissociates approximately 100%. For this reason, the formation of H₂SO₄ seems highly unlikely to me. It could, however, form HSO₄ which is a weak acid and would therefore be an equilibrium reaction. You should be able to derive the equations from this if you feel inclined to do so.

The second equation seems fine to me but I would get confirmation from someone else before trusting that it is right.

[P-man]

I thought it unlikely, but I didn't know how to change it, V.

[rctrackstar2007]

regarding the first equation, H₂SO₄ is a strong acid so in solution it dissociates approximately 100%. For this reason, the formation of H₂SO₄ seems highly unlikely to me. It could, however, form HSO₄ which is a weak acid and would therefore be an equilibrium reaction. You should be able to derive the equations from this if you feel inclined to do so.

The second equation seems fine to me but I would get confirmation from someone else before trusting that it is right.

the second is right. the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

[Borek]

the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

[syko sykes]

the second is right. the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

that's why i threw in a disclaimer by using the word approximately before i said 100%

[rctrackstar2007]

the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

what's confusing you about that? doesn't H2SO4 form and then most of the time break down?

[mrdeadman]

the second is right. the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

wth are you talking about? H₂SO₄ will not break down to form CO₂ and water.

[rctrackstar2007]

oh wait!! i didn't read correctly again sorry!! i was thinking of H₂CO₃. H₂SO₄ won't.

the second is right. the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

i meant H₂CO₃ where it shows H₂SO_{4, sorry about that}

[syko sykes]

oh wait!! i didn't read correctly again sorry!! i was thinking of H₂CO₃. H₂SO₄ won't.

the second is right. the H₂SO₄ will form, but that almost always will break down to make CO₂ and H₂O

i meant H₂CO₃ where it shows H₂SO_{4, sorry about that}

lol, i misread it the same way you did so it all made sense to me too

[rctrackstar2007]

good i don't feel so bad about my typo now  lol

[P-man]

So then is it right? Because I don't see how HCO₃ would form when there are no carbon atoms around. Anyways, is the second one right? Is this typically what happens when sulphates and carbonates mix?

[tennis freak]

the first equation is unlikely like stated above the the second seems totally correct to me and the talk about the HCO₃ was just an example not pertaining to your question in the first reaction

[P-man]

The first reaction: an aquoeus solution with the H₂SO₄ dissolving into H₂O and SO₃^-?

[tennis freak]

Through frequent observation, I noticed that HCl likes to form chlorides. So is this equation correct?

CuSO₄ + 2HCl --> CuCl₂ + H₂SO₄

Although I found it unlikely that it would form sulphuric acid, I could not find another spot to put the SO4, which I know cannot exist as a free compound.

This equation doesn't look like it is very possible not the other in the previous post