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Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« on: June 13, 2016, 09:28:50 AM »
Hi guys, I'm attaching a file with an assignment I got, which I can't seem to solve..
Appreciate any help.


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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 10:14:26 AM »
You have to show your attempts at solving the problem to receive help. This is a forum policy.
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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2016, 11:27:16 AM »
2.  How many carbon atoms will you need to make ethanol into 2-butanone?  What reactions do you know that form C-C bonds?
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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 07:34:44 AM »
You have to show your attempts at solving the problem to receive help. This is a forum policy.

The nothing I have shown is my attempt. I have no idea what to do.

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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2016, 09:07:17 AM »
The nothing I have shown is my attempt. I have no idea what to do.

Then you have to go back to your book or notes, such questions are always asked in the context of what was taught.
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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2016, 09:35:58 AM »
OK, let's start with the first two in exercise 4, number 1.  The chemical formula of A, the starting material is C3H6. There is information in the molecular formula itself.  What compound is this (probably), and what functional group (probably) is present?

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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 03:38:03 PM »
OK, let's start with the first two in exercise 4, number 1.  The chemical formula of A, the starting material is C3H6. There is information in the molecular formula itself.  What compound is this (probably), and what functional group (probably) is present?

Well, it's most likely Propene and not Cyclopropane since A-> C is a hydration reaction.
I'm just not sure how to use this information to solve for everything.

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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 03:58:52 PM »
In your texbook check rules that govern addition (HCl, H2O) to a double bond.
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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 04:04:03 PM »
This is what I have so far


The reaction for organometallic compounds states something like this (forgive my lack of formula knowledge here):

RC(O)O,MgX
When the O in the brackets is double bonded to the carbon.

I just don't quite understand what the comma means?

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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 05:22:53 PM »
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RC(O)O,MgX
Sometimes it is information about ionic compounds, though it is not formally correct.
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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 10:31:20 PM »
I sometimes use a comma to indicate a counter-ion, but mostly when writing formulas for sodium or potassium salts.

In proceeding from D + E through F to G, you seem to have lost two carbon atoms.  It's getting late here, and I might be missing something...

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Re: Organometallic compounds - help a new student! :(
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 06:04:58 AM »
I sometimes use a comma to indicate a counter-ion, but mostly when writing formulas for sodium or potassium salts.

In proceeding from D + E through F to G, you seem to have lost two carbon atoms.  It's getting late here, and I might be missing something...

You were indeed right. In any case, I had already turned in the assignment after correcting it.

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