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calculate pH at two different temperature
« on: June 28, 2016, 05:10:39 AM »
Hi
I have some doubt with this question:

Calculate:

a)the pH of HCl 0,01M at 25 °C, where pkw=14
b)the pH of HCl 0,01M at 100 °C , where pkw=12

I know that:

pH= - log[H+]
[H+] = CHCl = 0,01M  (strong acid)

a) pH= 2

But for the b) pint what I have to do?? Why does the exercise give me the two pkw values  at the different temperature?? I have to use that?

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Re: calculate pH at two different temperature
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2016, 08:54:08 AM »
How do you think - does the pKw matter here?
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Re: calculate pH at two different temperature
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 10:52:20 AM »
How do you think - does the pKw matter here?

nothing??

I mean I know that:

[OH-]*[H+]= Kw

In the case b) I should have pkw=12... (so neutrality is when [OH-]=[H+]= 10-6
But this shouldn't have an effect on pH value...can be the same value of the first question ? 


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Re: calculate pH at two different temperature
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 11:58:25 AM »
Compare [H3O+] from water with that of HCl. Is it worthy to take the former into account?
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Re: calculate pH at two different temperature
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 12:35:45 PM »
Compare [H3O+] from water with that of HCl. Is it worthy to take the former into account?
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HCl gives  1*10-2 H+


At 100 °C kw is 10-12 ...so I have:

H2O      <----->  H+  +  OH-

-- /  --------------10-2----0
--/   ------------- +x -----+x

Kw= 10-12= (10-2+x ) * x

It's clear that "x" (the water contribute)should be a little number in order to guarantee the ionic product Kw= 1*10-12  if I have already a 10-2 


So I think it's negligible... ?





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