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Citrate-Phosphate buffer for plant protection experiment
« on: September 03, 2016, 05:32:29 AM »
Hello guys! From citric acid  (0.1 M C6H8O7*H2O) and sodium phosphate (0.2 M Na2HPO4*2H2O), how can I adjust the volume of each stock solution to create the buffer aiming at different pH (4; 4.4; 4.8, and so on)? Mix X ml of citric acid to Y ml of phosphate solution and dilute the mixture to finally get 400 ml of buffer at the desired pH.
How can I figure out X and Y in the case that I want to make this buffer at pH 4?
Can you please explain this? Thanks a lot!!

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Re: Citrate-Phosphate buffer for plant protection experiment
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2016, 07:40:29 AM »
Calculations are not easy. You can use a specialized software like the Buffer Maker, or google for McIlvaine buffer recipes.
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Re: Citrate-Phosphate buffer for plant protection experiment
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2016, 09:24:10 AM »
Table 10.45 in DD Perrin and B Dempsey's book "Buffers for pH and Metal Ion Control" may help.

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Re: Citrate-Phosphate buffer for plant protection experiment
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2016, 02:06:14 PM »
Thank you very much @Borek and @Babcock_Hall  :) I found the McIlvaine buffer recipes, however, I still cannot understand the way they calculated it. I am not specializing in Chemistry, so it becomes even harder for me..

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Re: Citrate-Phosphate buffer for plant protection experiment
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2016, 02:32:44 PM »
As I said, calculations are not easy. See the introduction here: http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-calculation&right=toc
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Re: Citrate-Phosphate buffer for plant protection experiment
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2016, 09:50:55 AM »
Citrate has three pKa values.  Phosphate has two relevant pKa values.  In both cases the pKa values will be affected by ionic strength, making the problem even more difficult.  There was a thread on this buffer about six years ago:  http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=45278.0

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