Dan, is it possible to make PhD in UK without making MSc first?
In Poland MSc is a prerequisite, I was told in US MSc are mostly graduate program dropouts.
As far as I know, a Master's degree (or some international equivalent) is a prerequisite for PhD/DPhil study in the UK. For Chemistry anyway.
Do you mean someone in the USA told you UK MSc's were a sign of graduate drop-outs, or that MSc's gained in the USA were a sign of graduate drop-outs?
If someone has an MSc it doesn't necessarily mean they dropped out of their PhD. PhD dropouts would have an MSc, but that doesn't mean they ever went for a PhD. At some universities, eg. Oxford, you cannot get a BSc in chemistry, a 4 year MChem is mandatory.
All I know about the US is this:
I'm doing a 4 year course, which will give me an MChem (provided I don't fail). Now, if I wanted to do a PhD in America I would also have to spend another year getting an american master's degree! This is supposedly because in America, it takes 5 years to get a masters, which everyone one in the UK attributes to poor university education in the USA - but I'm not in any position to comment on the degree of truth in that statement.
So I think for american PhDs you have to do an extra year in america before you start your PhD.
My Inorganic tutor did this - he had to do the extra year even though he discovered something new and awesome when he did his MChem research year, I can't remember what it was, solids don't get me very excited, but he got full marks for his thesis!