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Offline fenti

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How do you perform a dehydration on an organic molecule to minus h20 without ruining the structure? Im new to chemistry.. id really appreciate some knowledge as im keen to learn some interesting things.


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Re: how to perform a dehydration on an organic molecule to minus h20
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2016, 06:40:08 AM »
Kindly trouble yourself to read all of the Forum Rules{click}.  You agreed to follow them as a condition of signing up, and therefore they apply to you, no matter if you know them yet, or think that they shouldn't apply to you.

Point by point of topics you'll find in the forum rules, for your benefit, and the benefit of others who just don't read:

1).  We can't "teach you everything" there is to know about chemistry.  You have to learn, from books and classes the basic concepts, and then we'll help when you get stuck.  We can't write textbooks, one posting at a time.

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To the point of your question:  Removing a water isn't an apt description.  Yes when we remove a hydroxyl group, it does come off as a water molecule.  But we don't say it that way.

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Re: how to perform a dehydration on an organic molecule to minus h20
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 02:35:19 PM »
In organic chemistry, "dehydration" is going to change the chemical structure of the molecule by way of hydroxyl group "leaving" the molecule.

 if your molecule is more soluble in a different type of solvent than water, you could look into performing a liquid/liquid separation.

dessication/ can also be a good way to dewater a compound. i would not recommend oven drying if you dont know about the temperature stability of your compound

 if your molecule has a sufficiently different vapor pressure from water and is stable at higher temp and pressure, you could look into a distillation method, but if the operating temperature and pressure you choose is not appropriate, you can cause unwanted dehydration or combustion (therefore altering the molecular structure and/or potentially hurting you).

 but i have to agree with the moderator that you really need to do more research (maybe in a university library) to find the appropriate methods and follow up analyses for the specific molecule/situation.. not all organic molecules respond in the same way to the same process!

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