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some question about saffron?
« on: November 10, 2010, 08:22:05 PM »
hello guy saffron aroma is from Safranal Chemical element do this element there is in

nature or i'can Obtain that from elsewhere if no there is other things who have saffron

aroma?

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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 12:20:14 AM »
Safranal appears in plants other than saffron (Crocus sativus).

From wikipedia;
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Aspalathus linearis (Rooibos)
Camellia sinensis (Tea leaf)
Ficus carica (Fig leaf)
Lycium chinense (Wolfberry)
Cuminum cyminum (Cumin Seed)

http://sun.ars-grin.gov:8080/npgspub/xsql/duke/chemdisp.xsql
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12683011

You can also buy safranal from chemical supplier, such as Sigma Aldrich.
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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 03:59:51 AM »
Safranal Chemical element

This is not an element, but a compound.
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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 01:30:50 PM »

You can also buy safranal from chemical supplier, such as Sigma Aldrich.

thanks.do you know more chemical supplier seller?

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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 02:11:16 PM »
sorry but im amator this product is same name but has diffrent image waht is mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safranal

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/ProductDetail.do?lang=en&N4=W338907|ALDRICH&N5=SEARCH_CONCAT_PNO|BRAND_KEY&F=SPEC

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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 02:44:05 PM »
sorry but im amator this product is same name but has diffrent image waht is mean?

Nothing, this is the same molecule, just seen from other side and at different angle.
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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 02:44:10 PM »
i just know few saffron compounds but saffron contains more than 150 compounds.golden yellow color is from Carotenoid and Picrocrocin has a bitter taste and is the chemical most responsible for the taste of saffron,Safranal is responsible for the aroma of saffron and also there is few percent humidity and fat.

anyone know other saffron compounds and that contains percent.
please highlighted effective compounds for appearance,taste and smell.
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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 08:58:54 PM »
Here's a list of alkaloid and non-alkaloid composition of saffron (C. sativus) some with parts per million (ppm) listed as well;
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2-BUTENOIC-ACID-LACTONE: Silk Stigma Style
2-PHENYLETHANOL: Silk Stigma Style
3,5,5-TRIMETHYL-4-HYDROXY-1-CYCLOHEXANONE-2-ENE: Silk Stigma Style
ALPHA-CROCETIN: Silk Stigma Style
ASH: Silk Stigma Style 42,700 - 133,000 ppm
BETA-CAROTENE: Silk Stigma Style
CARBOHYDRATES: Silk Stigma Style 436,400 - 573,000 ppm
CINEOLE: Silk Stigma Style
CIS-DIMETHYLCROCETIN: Silk Stigma Style
COPPER: Silk Stigma Style 3 ppm
CROCETIN: Silk Stigma Style
CROCETIN-BETA-D-GENTIOBIOSIDE Plant:
CROCETIN-BETA-D-GLUCOSIDE Plant:
CROCETIN-BETA-D-GLUCOSIDE-D-GENTIOBIOSIDE Plant:
CROCETIN-DI-BETA-GLUCOSIDE Plant:

CROCIN Plant:
CROCIN-1: Silk Stigma Style 20,000 ppm
CROCIN-2: Silk Stigma Style
CROCIN-3: Silk Stigma Style
CROCIN-4: Silk Stigma Style
CROCOSE: Silk Stigma Style
DELPHINIDIN Flower:
EO: Silk Stigma Style 3,700 - 13,700 ppm
FAT: Silk Stigma Style 56,300 - 134,000 ppm
FIBER: Silk Stigma Style 43,800 - 48,800 ppm
GAMMA-CAROTENE: Silk Stigma Style
GENTIOBIOSE: Silk Stigma Style
HENTRIACONTANE: Silk Stigma Style
ISOPHORONE: Silk Stigma Style
KAEMPFEROL Flower:
LAURIC-ACID: Silk Stigma Style
LYCOPENE: Silk Stigma Style
MANGANESE: Silk Stigma Style 284 ppm
METHYLCROCETIN: Silk Stigma Style
MYRICETIN Flower:
NAPHTHALENE: Silk Stigma Style
NITROGEN: Silk Stigma Style 22,200 - 24,300 ppm
OLEIC-ACID: Silk Stigma Style
OXYSAFRANAL: Silk Stigma Style
PALMITIC-ACID: Silk Stigma Style
PETUNIDIN Flower:
PHYTOENE: Silk Stigma Style
PHYTOFLUENE: Silk Stigma Style
PICROCROCIN: Silk Stigma Style 20,000 ppm
PINENE: Silk Stigma Style
PROTEIN: Silk Stigma Style 125,700 - 135,800 ppm
PROTOCROCIN: Silk Stigma Style
QUERCETIN Flower:
RIBOFLAVIN: Silk Stigma Style 56 - 138 ppm HHB
SAFRANAL: Silk Stigma Style
STARCH: Silk Stigma Style 119,900 - 130,300 ppm
STEARIC-ACID: Silk Stigma Style
TETRAHYDROLYCOPENE: Silk Stigma Style
THIAMIN: Silk Stigma Style 0.7 - 4 ppm
TRANS-DIMETHYLCROCETIN: Silk Stigma Style
WATER: Silk Stigma Style 85,000 - 156,000 ppm
XANTHOPHYLL: Silk Stigma Style
ZEAXANTHIN: Silk Stigma Style

Source: DUKE1992A: Duke, James A. 1992. Handbook of phytochemical constituents of GRAS herbs and other economic plants. Boca Raton, FL. CRC Press.

If you want to see the (purported) biological activity of these chemicals search Crocus sativus in the link above. As much as I love phytochemistry my knowledge in it is weak. Hope this helps.
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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 03:34:07 AM »
thank you Fluorine.where i can get safety information of chemical compounds?

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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 04:08:51 AM »
The best source I know of is a material safety data sheet (MSDS) of the chemical. These can be found usually by googling the chemical name followed by MSDS. For example googling "Cineole MSDS" gave me http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924005

Though this might not be easy for all of them as some chemicals have multiple names. If you need help with any specific ones I'll see if I can't find safety data for you.
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Re: some question about saffron?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2010, 06:32:28 AM »
The best source I know of is a material safety data sheet (MSDS) of the chemical. These can be found usually by googling the chemical name followed by MSDS. For example googling "Cineole MSDS" gave me http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924005

Though this might not be easy for all of them as some chemicals have multiple names. If you need help with any specific ones I'll see if I can't find safety data for you.

i find a perfect site
http://www.msds.com

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