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Offline sharontee

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Need help on a past paper question
« on: August 28, 2017, 04:43:15 AM »
Hello all, I am trying to do a past paper question for the Hong Kong Pharmacy Registration Exam.
It is a pharmacy practise paper, but the question looks more chemistry. I am totally stumped, any help or pointers will be appreciated. Please let me know if should move this question to a different section.

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5: A pharmaceutical free base has very poor solubility and oral bioavailability.You want to prepare pharmaceutical salts to overcome this
5a) Compared with a nitrate salt, the chloride salt fails to increase the oral bioavailability of this drug. Why would that be? Assume it is chemically stable and not extensively metabolized.(3 marks)

>>>> The only answer I could find is nitrate salts are all soluble, and all chloride salts are soluble apart from silver and mercury chloride?? Seems a really obscure answer?

5b) The intrinsic solubility of this drug is 1mcg/ml and the pKa is 2. Please estimate the solubility of the nitrate salt at the pH of the intestines (pH=6.8) by using mathematical or other approaches (4 marks)

>>>> Seems to be a mathematical problem, but doesn't provide enough info to do calculations?? I have got as far as the Henderson Hasselbach equation:

pH=pKa+log[A-]/[HA]
I know that the base has an intrinsic solubility of 1mcg/ml, and I assume I use this info to calculate at what pH this occurs, but how do I plug this value into the equation without any info on its molecular structure? And then how do I progress from there to the solubility of the nitrate salt??

Please help, thanks in advance

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Re: Need help on a past paper question
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2017, 03:47:04 PM »
Hello all, I am trying to do a past paper question for the Hong Kong Pharmacy Registration Exam.
It is a pharmacy practise paper, but the question looks more chemistry. I am totally stumped, any help or pointers will be appreciated. Please let me know if should move this question to a different section.

Hi there.  We're glad to help, but I feel I have to remind you that our  forum Rules{click} specify that we only give hints.  I'm reminding you because your questions are very specific, so my general help may not solve your problems completely.

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Question:
5: A pharmaceutical free base has very poor solubility and oral bioavailability.You want to prepare pharmaceutical salts to overcome this
5a) Compared with a nitrate salt, the chloride salt fails to increase the oral bioavailability of this drug. Why would that be? Assume it is chemically stable and not extensively metabolized.(3 marks)

This is a tough problem.  I'm not well versed in pharmacology, but this isn't a result I was expecting.  I can't solve this one.  However ...

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>>>> The only answer I could find is nitrate salts are all soluble, and all chloride salts are soluble apart from silver and mercury chloride?? Seems a really obscure answer?

This answer of yours, isn't really an answer.  Its a high school level fact, that is correct, but it has no bearing on the topic at hand.  Unless the active includes silver, mercury (or lead) cations.

I could say, "The nitrate anion is a polyatomic anion, and the chloride ion is an ionized element."  That's a true statement, but it doesn't answer the question in any way.  You can stare at your statement or mine all day, but you'll never solve this problem that way.

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5b) The intrinsic solubility of this drug is 1mcg/ml and the pKa is 2. Please estimate the solubility of the nitrate salt at the pH of the intestines (pH=6.8) by using mathematical or other approaches (4 marks)

A bit of pharmaceutical jargon here, and many steps left out.  This is a tough one as well.

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>>>> Seems to be a mathematical problem, but doesn't provide enough info to do calculations?? I have got as far as the Henderson Hasselbach equation:

pH=pKa+log[A-]/[HA]
I know that the base has an intrinsic solubility of 1mcg/ml, and I assume I use this info to calculate at what pH this occurs, but how do I plug this value into the equation without any info on its molecular structure? And then how do I progress from there to the solubility of the nitrate salt??

I don't know if this line of reasoning will help you, or if as you note, we're missing information we need.
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: Need help on a past paper question
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 10:52:03 PM »

Do you know the meaning of intrinsic solubility  or Buffered solubility  or thermodynamic solubility or  Unbuffered solubility?

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