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Finding Gas Volume at STP
« on: June 14, 2006, 03:10:11 AM »
Hey guys...i have a question in chemistry with probably many more to come....

Guys...how do I do this question...

A 798 ml sample of gas is collected at 5.00C, 621 mmHG. What is the volume at STP....Thanks

I am not sure which law I should use...
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2006, 03:16:49 AM »
pV = nRT

or

p1V1/T1 = p2V2/T2
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2006, 03:18:50 AM »
thanks a loott...what would the n be in for the eqaution...how do i found out the number of moles..


i know 1 mol =22.4 L

EDIT: Is the answer 6.4?

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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2006, 04:02:16 AM »
what would the n be in for the eqaution

number of moles, R is universal gas constant

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how do i found out the number of moles

solve for n?

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Is the answer 6.4?

Without checking - no. You started collecting gas close to the STP (621 mmHg vs 760 mmHg and 5 deg C vs 0 deg C - or rather 278K vs 273K) so the change in the voulme will be not that large.

Although digits 6 and 4 suggest that you are on the right track. Check your units.
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2006, 04:13:52 AM »
ok...this is very perplexing....i got 640 using the combined gas law..

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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2006, 04:14:48 AM »
how would the eqation be set up..


621x=1x278x?

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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2006, 04:30:53 AM »
how would the eqation be set up..


621x=1x278x?

??? Do you use x for unknown and for multiplication at the same time?

p1V1/T1 = p2V2/T2

so if V2 is the volume you are looking for:

621 mmHg * 798 mL / 278 K = 760 mmHg * V2 mL / 273 K

Note that as long as you use same units on both sides it doesn't matter what units are used as they cancel out.
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2006, 04:34:36 AM »
using your eqaution...i got 640ml...does that sound right????

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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2006, 04:41:38 AM »
using your eqaution...i got 640ml...does that sound right????

Exactly  :)
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2006, 04:42:52 AM »
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2006, 04:43:17 AM »
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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2006, 04:46:46 AM »
oh ok...thast sounds far...i ahve many queestions too...but i fel like I have already taken enough of you time....I;m in tenth grade and I have a final tomorrow...our teahcer is like th e worst chemistry teacher that does not teach us anything...we aslo ahve theose tenth grads who think they are cool that distrupt the whole class...anyways...thanks a lot ofr your help.

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Re: finidng gas volume at STP
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2006, 07:19:18 AM »
We all love to help you.

The ideal gas law states that PV = nRT where
P: Pressure
V: Volume
n: number of moles (amount)
R: Universal Gas Constant
T: Absolute Temperature

In the process of changing the pressure and temperature of the gas, its mass remains constant. This means n is constant.

PV = nRT
PV/T = nR = constant

Hence, P1V1/T1 = P2V2/T2

You can use this equation to evaluate the volume of the gas at STP.
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