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Offline abdulloh

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What's the best liquid flux for soldering copper onto stainless steel, HCl or   H3PO4,  of how many percent  concentration each ?
How's logical explanation on solder sticking process will actually work ?
Some suggest Phosphoric acid better, actually I tried both works, ...many thanks in advance !
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Hi abdulloh, welcome here!

Soldering is difficult on metals that have a protective oxide layer, for instance aluminium, stainless steel, nickel-chrome... The liquid added metal doesn't wet the parts.

I suppose that the successful fluxes spoil this oxide layer. Chlorine ions, as in HCL, are known to weaken the protective layer of stainless steel.

But not having tried myself on stainless steel, I can't tell more.

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Someone posted before I could finish this, but I am posting it anyway.

What's the best liquid flux for soldering copper onto stainless steel, HCl or   H3PO4,  of how many percent  concentration each ?
How's logical explanation on solder sticking process will actually work ?
Some suggest Phosphoric acid better, actually I tried both works, ...many thanks in advance !

This forum is a learning forum.
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By the way there are other factors that might influence your decision .
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The corrosive effect of the flux after the soldering is long done.

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There are also urea based fluxes for steel, I have used one by myself. My bet is that this is a well researched area.

I remember being told HCl is problematic as it promotes later corrosion, no idea if it is true. As I said, I am quite sure this was researched, soldering is an old, well established technique.
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For just about any application, halides of any type in any form are contraindicated for exposure to steel.  I would like to see any reference to the use of HCl for any steel application.  I suspect you've misread something, or have found a deliberately false source.
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