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Offline kostakost

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Cis or Trans?
« on: November 03, 2017, 02:59:36 PM »
Hello!
Imagine we have an alkene with 2 substituents (R1 and R2). Then:

      R1   R2
       \    /
         =           this is cis
       /    \
     H     H

     R1    H
       \    /
         =           this is trans,
       /    \
     H      R2

     R1    H
       \    /
         =           But what's this???
       /    \
     R2     H

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Re: Cis or Trans?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 03:41:15 PM »
Its a totally different molecule. Cis and trans can usually be interconverted thermally, but that 3rd molecule is actually substituted differently. Imagine R1 is chlorine and R2 is bromine. You have 1-bromo-2-chloroethene either cis or trans. however the third molecule is 1-bromo-1-chloroethene.

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Re: Cis or Trans?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 05:28:52 PM »
You may see it sometimes called a geminal disubstituted alkene.
What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were like a man, but if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?  - Richard P. Feynman

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Re: Cis or Trans?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 06:19:48 AM »
I understood it.
Thank you for your replies   :)

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