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Offline daginhun

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Diethylenetriamine safety
« on: December 25, 2013, 03:04:38 PM »
How dangerous is diethylenetriamine fumes at room temperature? Is a well ventilated room fine? So I wont have any problem because of the fumes?
Diethylenetriamine in 2-5 milliliters per liter concentration in a silver plating bath.
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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2013, 02:25:59 AM »
diethylenetriamine may cause shortness of breath. you can use fume cupboard ?

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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2013, 10:47:32 AM »
I can't use fume cupboard. I saw some safety data sheets about Diethylenetriamine and they are similar to iodide, bromide, formaldehyde, ammonia and as we know in practice we don't need to handle all of them in fume hood...

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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2013, 10:59:52 AM »
Try using formaldehyde or ammonia in the open (no fume hood or fume extraction system), you will see why you need a fume hood. Formaldehyde is extremely toxic.
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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2013, 12:13:48 PM »
You do need a fume hood for all of those materials in practice!!!!
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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 03:40:45 AM »
Try using formaldehyde or ammonia in the open (no fume hood or fume extraction system), you will see why you need a fume hood. Formaldehyde is extremely toxic.
I used to use formaldehyde for bug dissection in outdoor and I had no problem. For alternative photography I'm using iodide with no problem and if I'm in indoor I'm using gas mask.
Anyway, thanks for the help.
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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 05:21:22 AM »
I used to use formaldehyde for bug dissection in outdoor and I had no problem. For alternative photography I'm using iodide with no problem and if I'm in indoor I'm using gas mask.
Anyway, thanks for the help.
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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 08:07:22 AM »
Because bromide, iodide.. official safety data sheet is nearly the same, but the are not in a same level in danger.

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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2013, 10:28:43 AM »
People living in trailers with formaldehyde out gassing inside got sick and some have said that it has long term effects. In the biology lab they did not have me do dissecting of specimens under the hood and I am still alive, but I do not know if I was effected in the long term. I know I dissected the shark, the fumes made me sick.

I do not remember having experience with diethylenetriamine.




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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2013, 06:03:53 AM »
Thank you billnotgatez!
I think you can understand what I want to know about  Diethylenetriamine.
You can't use ethylenediamine outdoor or indoor with good ventilation, because ethylenediamine has really dangerous fumes, so I need to replace it with something. Most possible for this is for example Diethylenetriamine (or Triethylenetetramine).
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Re: Diethylenetriamine safety
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2013, 03:12:18 PM »
Epoxy resin, sold in kg quantity to hobbyists, contains diethylene triamine (DETA) or the less volatile triethylene tetramine (TETA):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoxy_resin#Amines
and these resins just stink a bit. Can DETA really be so dangerous?

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