June 17, 2024, 12:22:13 AM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Copyright Of The Atom  (Read 4043 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline rjordan393

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 9
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Copyright Of The Atom
« on: March 07, 2015, 04:33:22 AM »
I was going to print out a copy of the structure of an atom. I noticed it was copyrighted. How can this occur? How do you copyright God's creation? Is this Country going banana's?

Offline kriggy

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1520
  • Mole Snacks: +136/-16
Re: Copyright Of The Atom
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 05:29:27 AM »
Ist probably just the picture / scheme that is copyrighted. You IMO fine to print it for your personal use. If you want to do a presentation or use it it some written work then you should cite the author and the book you took it from

Offline billnotgatez

  • Global Moderator
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 4405
  • Mole Snacks: +223/-62
  • Gender: Male
Re: Copyright Of The Atom
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 06:14:20 AM »
@rjordan393
is there a link to the diagram?

Offline Arkcon

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7367
  • Mole Snacks: +533/-147
Re: Copyright Of The Atom
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 08:53:37 AM »
I was going to print out a copy of the structure of an atom.

Shine on you crazy diamond.
Quote
I noticed it was copyrighted.
That happens, yes.
Quote
How can this occur?
You write, (c) yourname 2015 and that's all anyone has to do for anything.
Quote
How do you copyright God's creation?
You don't, you copyright yours, the drawing, the explanation, other artwork, etc.
Quote
Is this Country going banana's?
This has been the case for quite a while, maybe even before the 1800's, but not likely much before.  Not really all that surprising as technology advances.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2015, 11:40:55 AM by Arkcon »
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

Offline rjordan393

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 9
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Re: Copyright Of The Atom
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2015, 09:38:00 AM »

Quote

How do you copyright God's creation?


You don't, you copyright yours, the drawing, the explanation, other artwork, etc.

But there must be hundreds or more of drawings of the atom that are similar. So what's the point? There are times when I see someone or a company getting sued over what is claimed copyright infringement because their drawing is too similar. If I were a judge, I throw the plantiff right out of my courtroom.
I made a copy of the atoms structure from another website.

Offline Corribus

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3503
  • Mole Snacks: +535/-23
  • Gender: Male
  • A lover of spectroscopy and chocolate.
Re: Copyright Of The Atom
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2015, 12:39:24 PM »
Similar and identical are two different things. Copyright laws are complicated but also important.
What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were like a man, but if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?  - Richard P. Feynman

Offline Furanone

  • Chemist
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 211
  • Mole Snacks: +34/-2
  • Gender: Male
  • Actually more a Food Chemist
Re: Copyright Of The Atom
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2015, 05:31:35 PM »
If the atom's electrons are close enough in orbit with the copyrighted material they may get sued. If they are outside the orbit, they may not get sued. Even if there is enough of a deviation of the electron's orbit, there may still be a case for copyright infringement and it will be up to a judge to decide. It's kind of like Schrodinger's cat, and it's all just very messed up.

Who should get sole credit for anything since Einstein's flashes of genius were in large part due to him reading all the past works of brilliant physicists and synthesizing it to take it that one important step further? As Newton said when he was accused of the same: "They might be giants, but we stand on their shoulders and see that much further beyond the horizon". All we want is our pat on the head to say we matter and are not insignificant, so give the guy who was somehow divinely inspired to develop this copyrighted atom structure his pat on the head and as Kriggy said cite the author in any upcoming publication, and then balance in the universe is restored.
"The true worth of an experimenter consists in pursuing not only what he seeks in his experiment, but also what he did not seek."

--Sir William Bragg (1862 - 1942)

Sponsored Links